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  Question 51: Is the magnitude of value of a commodity determined by the quantity of abstract labor necessary to produce it, or by the quantity of other commodities against which it can be exchanged?   
  [46] VanHalen: MsMarx gave a good answer to question 51 and I don't mean to criticize because I don't think I can do much better. However, when I read the answer given by MsMarx, I don't think it ever came out and plainly said what the answer to the question really was. MsMarx said “the form aspect of value is value as exchange-value, which is independent from use value. If one abstracts from the use value of the product of labor one obtains the value”   
  The question asks about the magnitude OF the value that MsMarx did a good job of uncovering in the above excerpt. I would add to the above answer of MsMarx that the Magnitude Of The Value is determined by the the amount of labor socially necessary for the production of the item.   
  The bottom of page 129 in Captial says ,“What exclusively determines the magnitude of the value of any article is therefore the amount of labour socially necessary, or the labour-time socially necessary for its production.”   
  I interpret this sentence to answer the question 51 by setting up what determines the magnitude of the value once it has been uncovered from its expressive form; exchange value.   
  Hans: Thanks for taking the trouble of putting MsMarx's answer more in focus. I think this is helpful for the readers of this list. I also like that you pointed out what role the exchange relation with the other commodities plays in this answer: You say that in your last sentence, it is the expressive form of the inherent value.   
 
 
 
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