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  Question 718: Does it make sense for the working class to fight for higher wages if the capitalist, for economic reasons, usually maintains the upper hand in such conflicts?   
  [668] Nogi: workers fight for nothing.   No it does not make sense for the worker to fight for higher wages. Marx says that in the best case scenario of wages being raised all that would happen is that the worker gets a small decrease in the amount of unpaid labor he has to do. Marx also says that by their very nature wages require the worker to perform unpaid labor. It can go a couple of different ways. The price of labor will keep rising as long as it doesn't get in the way of the capitalist's accumulation. If wages rise and it does interfere with accumulation, then the price of labor will fall to meet with the capital's requirements for self-valorization. It always appears that the capitalist will come out on top, so it is useless for the worker to fight for higher wages.   
  Hans: You say yourself that sometimes a rise in wages does not interfere with capital accumulation. Then why not fight for better wages, even if it does not mean the end for capitalism?   
 
 
 
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